http://www.alanhartung.com/podcasts/a-different-perspective-17.mp3
John O’Keefe of Ginkworld and I discuss various issues related to the emerging church, his move to the east coast, and Ginktionary.
Show Notes:
- :48 Baptists at our Barbecue
- 1:17 Talking Politics
- 9:11 No more participating on the anti-emerging church sites for me
- 13:53 A conversation with John O’Keefe
- Another conversation podcast… next week! Scot McKnight, who blogs at Jesus Creed
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Hey Alan - listening now to your conversation with John. Interesting stuff. The whole movement vs. conversation thing has always been a bit of a convoluted thing. Mostly because of the differing definitions of these things. I’ve always been one of the voices who didn’t favor calling the whole emerging thing a “movement” because it’s not homogeneous enough. I think “conversation” just sounds pomo/hippy/silly so I’m not even going there.
Sounds like what I’m hearing here is actually a discussion between the idea of a generic “movement” and what might be called an “organization” - where a movement, as you’re describing it, is more open and an organization, which is more closed and something you “join.”
It’s when we see things trying to be made into an organization that I see problems. Seems like what you guys are talking about. Anyway, just wanted to throw in 2 cents. Peace.
+ Alan
April 4th, 2006