Comments on: A Different Perspective Podcasts – Emerging Conversations – John O’Keefe http://www.alanhartung.com/2006/03/a-different-perspective-podcasts-emerging-conversations-john-okeefe/ Faith, Art, Politics, and the Emerging Church Thu, 08 Sep 2011 03:27:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: + Alan http://www.alanhartung.com/2006/03/a-different-perspective-podcasts-emerging-conversations-john-okeefe/comment-page-1/#comment-2982 + Alan Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:42:20 +0000 http://www.alanhartung.com/blog/index.php/2006/03/30/a-different-perspective-podcasts-emerging-conversations-john-okeefe/#comment-2982 Hey Alan - listening now to your conversation with John. Interesting stuff. The whole movement vs. conversation thing has always been a bit of a convoluted thing. Mostly because of the differing definitions of these things. I've always been one of the voices who didn't favor calling the whole emerging thing a "movement" because it's not homogeneous enough. I think "conversation" just sounds pomo/hippy/silly so I'm not even going there. Sounds like what I'm hearing here is actually a discussion between the idea of a generic "movement" and what might be called an "organization" - where a movement, as you're describing it, is more open and an organization, which is more closed and something you "join." It's when we see things trying to be made into an organization that I see problems. Seems like what you guys are talking about. Anyway, just wanted to throw in 2 cents. Peace. Hey Alan – listening now to your conversation with John. Interesting stuff. The whole movement vs. conversation thing has always been a bit of a convoluted thing. Mostly because of the differing definitions of these things. I’ve always been one of the voices who didn’t favor calling the whole emerging thing a “movement” because it’s not homogeneous enough. I think “conversation” just sounds pomo/hippy/silly so I’m not even going there.

Sounds like what I’m hearing here is actually a discussion between the idea of a generic “movement” and what might be called an “organization” – where a movement, as you’re describing it, is more open and an organization, which is more closed and something you “join.”

It’s when we see things trying to be made into an organization that I see problems. Seems like what you guys are talking about. Anyway, just wanted to throw in 2 cents. Peace.

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