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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>Andrew -&lt;br /&gt;
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I did a podcast about a week ago... &lt;br /&gt;
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 http://www.alanhartung.com/blog/index.php/2005/10/21/the_emerging_church_series_vested_in_the_12&lt;br /&gt;
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Rob -&lt;br /&gt;
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I value dialogue, but it&#039;s posts like I just read today that make me feel like dialogue with Christians from their way of thinking is fruitless, and perhaps even harmful. Their disdain (specifically towards Roman Catholics) for other types of Christians is repugnant to me. It was once a mild annoyance, and I found some humor in their extremism. Now it makes me angry... and sad, at the same time. Maybe I can give their blog a chance, but I feel like it&#039;s arguing and not dialogue. I&#039;ll pray about it. Really.&lt;br /&gt;
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Robbymac -&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I&#039;m not there enough to know the general tones of each person.  But you&#039;re right, it&#039;s pretty convenient for their internet exemption from Scripture. How is it they can contextualize verses they want, but if any one else diverts from the &quot;clear&quot; message of Scripture... there&#039;s hell to pay! :D&lt;br /&gt;
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Any way, thanks all for stopping by the blog. I actually do want to dialogue more myself with others of differing viewpoints, but real discussions. I&#039;m not too sure if that&#039;s possible with Emergent No, but maybe I&#039;m just too close to them ticking me off with this latest post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew -</p>
<p>I did a podcast about a week ago&#8230; </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.alanhartung.com/blog/index.php/2005/10/21/the_emerging_church_series_vested_in_the_12" rel="nofollow">http://www.alanhartung.com/blog/index.php/2005/10/21/the_emerging_church_series_vested_in_the_12</a></p>
<p>Rob -</p>
<p>I value dialogue, but it&#8217;s posts like I just read today that make me feel like dialogue with Christians from their way of thinking is fruitless, and perhaps even harmful. Their disdain (specifically towards Roman Catholics) for other types of Christians is repugnant to me. It was once a mild annoyance, and I found some humor in their extremism. Now it makes me angry&#8230; and sad, at the same time. Maybe I can give their blog a chance, but I feel like it&#8217;s arguing and not dialogue. I&#8217;ll pray about it. Really.</p>
<p>Robbymac -</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m not there enough to know the general tones of each person.  But you&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s pretty convenient for their internet exemption from Scripture. How is it they can contextualize verses they want, but if any one else diverts from the &#8220;clear&#8221; message of Scripture&#8230; there&#8217;s hell to pay! <img src='http://www.alanhartung.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Any way, thanks all for stopping by the blog. I actually do want to dialogue more myself with others of differing viewpoints, but real discussions. I&#8217;m not too sure if that&#8217;s possible with Emergent No, but maybe I&#8217;m just too close to them ticking me off with this latest post!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Wacome Keck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Wacome Keck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since there is no scripture to study, do, and proclaim addressing the internet, of course one can do as they deem wise... That makes sense ...to some ... It is a good thing we have eachother (secular and not-so) to bounce these lead ballons off of, isnt it?&lt;br /&gt;
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(I (b.t.w.) cannot do too much patrolling through the internet ... It puts me in a worse state than than possibly trying to find inner peace at an &quot;all-you-can-eat&quot; buffet ... )&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since there is no scripture to study, do, and proclaim addressing the internet, of course one can do as they deem wise&#8230; That makes sense &#8230;to some &#8230; It is a good thing we have eachother (secular and not-so) to bounce these lead ballons off of, isnt it?</p>
<p>(I (b.t.w.) cannot do too much patrolling through the internet &#8230; It puts me in a worse state than than possibly trying to find inner peace at an &#8220;all-you-can-eat&#8221; buffet &#8230; )</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hubbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Hubbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to visit Emergent No. I wonder what they would think of my recent posting about Halloween? And really...what happened to A Different Perspective??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to visit Emergent No. I wonder what they would think of my recent posting about Halloween? And really&#8230;what happened to A Different Perspective??</p>
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		<title>By: robbymac</title>
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		<dc:creator>robbymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carla at e-no tries very hard to keep things discussion-based and doesn&#039;t give in to attacking on a personal level very often (and not at all in recent weeks). Denise (Surphing) isn&#039;t quite as mature as Carla, so if you find things ever getting malicious, check the identity of the person responding to you; you&#039;ll usually find that it&#039;s Surphing who gets nasty, not Carla.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the three women there teaching and correcting men&#039;s theology, they have addressed that issue and stated somewhere in their archives that those verses apply only to local churches, and not the Internet.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, they feel their criticisms of any denomination that allows women into leadershp or allows them to teach are valid, but that they themselves are exempt from that standard online. (Convenient, eh?)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you can keep your cool in your comments, and not let the e-no site become an addictive distraction from other more important things, then I encourage you to continue your efforts to be in dialogue with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Good luck!&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and happy halloween!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carla at e-no tries very hard to keep things discussion-based and doesn&#8217;t give in to attacking on a personal level very often (and not at all in recent weeks). Denise (Surphing) isn&#8217;t quite as mature as Carla, so if you find things ever getting malicious, check the identity of the person responding to you; you&#8217;ll usually find that it&#8217;s Surphing who gets nasty, not Carla.</p>
<p>As far as the three women there teaching and correcting men&#8217;s theology, they have addressed that issue and stated somewhere in their archives that those verses apply only to local churches, and not the Internet.</p>
<p>So, they feel their criticisms of any denomination that allows women into leadershp or allows them to teach are valid, but that they themselves are exempt from that standard online. (Convenient, eh?)</p>
<p>If you can keep your cool in your comments, and not let the e-no site become an addictive distraction from other more important things, then I encourage you to continue your efforts to be in dialogue with them.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Oh, and happy halloween!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Auld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Auld</dc:creator>
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		<description>Keep going to Emergent no.  We need to engage all people in conversation.  Especially those that don&#039;t agree with us.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although I disagree with the ladies of Emergent No I have found them worthy of debate.  They keep the dialogue going and never seem to get too personal.  Especially in the comment section.  &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep going to Emergent no.  We need to engage all people in conversation.  Especially those that don&#8217;t agree with us.</p>
<p>Although I disagree with the ladies of Emergent No I have found them worthy of debate.  They keep the dialogue going and never seem to get too personal.  Especially in the comment section.  </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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